God Bless the Storytellers

At a time when our sad old world needs good stories more than ever, the makers of the just-released film The Hobbit have done us an invaluable service. I saw the movie this past Sunday afternoon, and from beginning to end, I was transported. I was in awe, entertained in the purest sense, inwardly laughing in joyous recognition at familiar lines and elements of this well-loved story, a tale which inhabits my life like an old, cherished friend. And I was captivated by new twists, by some unexpected interpretations — brought to the edge of my seat by the plights and heroics of Bilbo and his traveling companions, made to gasp and cringe and sigh and nearly cheer aloud. I can’t remember enjoying a movie this much since . . . well, since The Lord of the Rings.

But the moviemakers have learned so much since the shooting of LOTR! There was so much on which to build, so much design and technology already in place, and the state of the art now allowing for more. There was the experience of how audiences reacted to LOTR informing the writers and production crew on how to go about The Hobbit. And they rose to the challenge — oh, did they rise!

I had seen some Internet headlines in the days prior, headlines calling the quality of the new film into question. I didn’t read the articles, of course; I didn’t want to know any more about the film than I already knew from reading the book as a fifth-grader and from listening to it again on audiobook several months ago. A friend also pointed out to me that certain critics had attacked the movie for being slow-paced, padded in order to stretch a single novel into three big films, and — worst of all — for being filled with material that did not come from Tolkien himself. I am happy to report that, if critics said such things, they were wrong on every count.

It is true that the film includes abundant material that isn’t overtly a part of the book The Hobbit. But with a very few exceptions, this content is directly from Tolkien’s writing-hand — from LOTR, from the appendices to LOTR — and in some cases, quite cleverly and faithfully extrapolated from hints and outlines Tolkien supplied in his tale of Bilbo’s adventure.

Although The Hobbit was marketed as a children’s book, my viewing-companion noted that the film feels bigger, more epic, in a way, than LOTR did. I believe I would agree, and I think I understand why. With the passage of time, with reflection, the film-makers have apprehended a crucial key: that the works of Tolkien are all about milieu. And The Hobbit (movie) delivers the world of Middle-earth much more abundantly than the LOTR films did. I love those LOTR movies dearly, but they had so much to accomplish to satisfy audiences (which, to a phenomenal degree, they did — audiences of hardcore Tolkien fans and of first-time visitors to Middle-earth alike) that what usually got shortchanged was the setting. In the LOTR movies, fantastic though they are, I wanted to see much more of Moria . . . more of Rivendell . . . more of Lothlorien. In The Hobbit, we SEE Middle-earth in its glory! This is a milieu movie, and it comes across as huge.

Are there the Hollywoodish didoes and flourishes that inhabit all first-rank films nowadays? Yes. The treatment of Radagast is distinctly reminiscent of the world of Harry Potter. This first third of a single story is outfitted with amplifications of character, dramatic moments, and an arc to make it a satisfying movie experience. Is that a sin? Is it an abuse of the source material? By no means!

A great story is a great story: like the richest wine, it flows in and fills the vessel of the particular form in which it’s delivered. In the long history of told and written tales, our stories have always been adapted, reshaped in different media for different audiences. So it is with the movie version of The Hobbit. It is not the book — though the book is in perfect health, and still welcomes each new generation of readers to the tale that is exactly as Tolkien wrote it.

It is a stunning and wondrous movie that this reviewer intends to see as many times as resources allow.

“It’s a money-making ploy,” some have said: “repackage a single book as three films to increase profits.” Perhaps. Perhaps that was a factor in the decision to make The Hobbit in three parts. The moviemakers may also have understood that a run of three movies allows for a lot more of Tolkien’s vast creation to be brought to the screen. Three movies? I say, “Hip-hip Hooray!” We get to do it again! As in the days of LOTR, we will be privileged (Lord willing) to look forward to a Hobbit movie each year. Seriously — would anyone rather stop at just one?

The casting is brilliant. The music is superb. The storytelling is amazing, brought to us by J. R. R. Tolkien and by the crew of this most recent incarnation. “Adventures . . . make one late to dinner.” Come with me to the theater, folks. Let’s all be very, very late to dinner.

39 Responses to God Bless the Storytellers

  1. I will be seeing The Hobbit in Taylorville either Dec. 26 or 27, so I cannot comment until then other than to say this: I would rather Jackson had stretched the trilogy (LOTR) than The Hobbit.
    However, what I consider the real tragedy is that Jackson did not, starting, say, in 2005, devote himself and WETA to a 10-year project of filming The Silmarillion, done in, let us say, six three-hour films (Hey, I can dream, right?)

    • fsdthreshold says:

      Thank you for your wonderful Christmas card/letter, my dear friend of so many years! I’m sending you a card, but I was afraid you might be away for the holidays. Not afraid, though — Taylorville! That’s great! Wish I could be there, too!

    • Scott says:

      You will probably never see a Silmarillion movie. I read something a while back leading up to the release of The Hobbit. When the J.R.R. (or the family) sold the original film rights to The Hobbit and LOTR, The Silmarillion wasn’t published yet so couldn’t be sold. After seeing the first TV and film productions that came out, the family swore that they would never sell film rights to any of J.R.R.’s other works.

  2. Binsers says:

    Thank you, Fred! I have been reading the reviews and have been so disappointed in them. I am now looking forward to seeing The Hobbit and relishing every moment. Yippee!

  3. Marquee Movies says:

    Thanks for a great (and spoiler-free) review of The Hobbit, Fred! I love what you say about creating a world – if that world feels real, on a conscious AND subconscious level, then as far as I’m concerned, I want to spend as many hours there as possible too. When Richard Donner was directing 1978’s Superman (the first serious superhero movie ever), he had the word “VERISIMILITUDE” put up all over every workshop. He wanted detail work that was so specific, most of it would never be seen on camera – but it would FEEL real, either to the actors on set, or to the audience subconsciously. I have heard of people who put Fellowship on late at night when they are going to bed, so they can float away while submerged in an entirely new world. Kind of like Douglas Adams’ trick to flying in “Hitchhiker’s Guide” – you jump, and forget to fall. Watching Fellowship for these late night people is so immersive, they forget they’re trying to fall asleep, and simply go straight to sleep. I get that. Really looking forward to The Hobbit – thanks for the enthusiasm! Oh, and nice title to the piece!

  4. Preacher says:

    I also saw The Hobbit on Sunday. I must confess that I had purposely stayed away from any news about the movie for several months, to the point that I didn’t know they were making THREE movies until after I saw it! (It’s amazing I could stay THAT isolated from the news, isn’t it?) But without that knowledge, I was so very impressed with how much time they took to tell the story. As the scenes unfolded, I thought, “They’re being very patient with this.”

    And you’re absolutely right, Fred–the setting is immersive. Middle-earth is a very real place! And I am anxious to visit that world again soon!

  5. Swordlily says:

    I watched the Hobbit with my family on Christmas day. Instead of opening presents first thing as tradition dictates, we went on a crisp, cold winter walk together, laughing and talking and generally being to loud for those people trying to sleep in on their day off. It was a Christmas I will never forget.

    After reading one or two unhappy reviews I had some annoying doubts about the Hobbit. On the other hand, I watched Peter Jackson’s blog about the movie. And from seeing the joy and care he put into it, I went into that theater believing that it would be a movie made by someone who knows the true heart of Middle Earth.

    And so it was. From the first moment to the last epic scene I was transported out of that comfortable theater chair, into a land of dwarf princes, bloodthirsty orcs, ancient powerful creatures, and hobbits. As for unnecessarily extending the book, this is what I have to say to that: I wouldn’t care if the last book was the characters just hanging out on Middle Earth. I love just BEING there in the Middle Earth Jackson created, where mountains battle in wars as old as time.

    • fsdthreshold says:

      Thanks, Swordlily! Your reaction to the film sounds very much like mine!

      Your family walk early on Christmas sounds like a wonderful experience!

  6. mr brown snowflake here says:

    Hey it’s Brownie here, on a friend’s computer back in Taylorville. I saw The Hobbit 12-26 and have MUCH to say about it, but will wait until at least 12-30 when I get back to my own CPU to digress. In the meantime I will agree with all that the landscape and photography of the film are top-rate, but for me this is easily — by a wide margin — the worst of the four Tolkien films so far. I hesitate in awarding it 3.5 of 5 stars and now dread what is still to come …

    • fsdthreshold says:

      Mr. Brown, I think it’s fantastic that you first saw this movie in the theater back in Taylorville! How fitting — to see it in the town where you first read The Hobbit, where we all discovered and reveled in the works of Tolkien! (I, too, am delighted that Taylorville’s theater is up and running again!)

      I am curious to read what you found not to like about this movie. I wouldn’t have made the same choices the filmmakers did concerning Radagast the Brown, but other than that, I pretty much loved everything about it. No, it’s not the book. A movie can’t be a book. But I found it to be a thoroughly enjoyable movie. Well, as I said . . . looking forward to hearing your thoughts!

  7. jhagman says:

    I find myself oddly agreeing with Mr. Brown, I find Mr. Jackson’s take on Middle Earth entirely too “cute”, and I don’t think an old fashioned Oxford Don would have been always very comfortable. Peter Jackson’s Middle Earth is New Zealand, but having said that, he did get $22 from me, and my girlfriend will require that I acquire the dvd!

    • fsdthreshold says:

      Is there a way to make a large film today that would make an old-fashioned Oxford don entirely comfortable? We have to cut Mr. Jackson some slack in that regard. I agree with you, jhagman, that the Middle-earth of the LOTR movies is mostly “New Zealand,” and I didn’t like that aspect, either. I wanted the forests to look more British, since after all, Tolkien was writing a pre-historic mythology of Britain.

      But, “cute”? I’m not getting that. 🙂 Jackson’s orcs are filthy and scary, the battle scenes gritty and intense. When I recently re-read The Hobbit, I was struck by how comedic it was. Tolkien plays many more things for comedy than I’d remembered from childhood. I would argue that Jackson’s film is much less cutesy in many ways than Tolkien’s children’s book is — not that I’m denigrating the book in the least! But I thought Jackson’s handling of the whole Unexpected Party was brilliant. If he’d included all the repetition that Tolkien does, the Dwarves arriving so gradually, etc., that wouldn’t have worked at all on-screen. Jackson brings beautifully to the big screen what Tolkien brought masterfully to the page.

      The Middle-earth of the movie version of The Hobbit feels much less like New Zealand to me — there’s more of a warmth to it, more color than I get from the LOTR films (which I also love).

      $22 — ouch! Yeah, I paid about $18, I think, but we saw a matinee. Of course I’ll acquire the DVD in the fulness of time!

  8. jhagman says:

    Fred, what I mean by “cute” is some of the liberties Jackson takes with Tolkien’s work, to be more entertaining. Did you really like that whole disgusting, scatological scene with the trolls? Rabbit sleds? And the other films! Dwarf tossing? Stupid! And don’t get me started on Jackson’s version of “The Battle of Pelennor Fields”. It is not the Battle of Pelennor Fields. Tolkien’s work can be presented “as is” on the screen, you just need a sophisticated director- and then an “old fashioned Oxford Don” would not roll over in his grave. It is with great comfort I heard that the Silmarillion rights were not sold. I cannot bear another rabbit sled!

  9. jhagman says:

    Oh,,,,and Fred, so you do read faster than a book a year! I knew it! And books like Newton’s “Principia” and “Finnegan’s Wake” do not count.

    • fsdthreshold says:

      To be fair, it was an audiobook. I actually listened to The Hobbit on a drive to Illinois and back. That definitely speeded up the “reading” experience.

      Trolls — honestly, I didn’t notice it being that much different from the scene in the book (gasp!), although yes, the humor in the film was baser. The rabbit sled was part of what I meant by “I didn’t like what they did with Radagast.”

      About Dwarf-tossing — did you ever read Dave Barry’s treatment of the LOTR films? He was pointing out the humor mileage the filmmakers attempted to get out of Gimli’s being short. According to Barry, every few minutes, Gimli would proclaim, “I’m still short!” and audiences would roll around on the floor, laughing. 🙂

      I agree with all your complaints about the films. But still, I’m able to enjoy them. They do an awful lot right, and they do it with obvious love and care toward these wondrous books.

  10. Before I begin, a reminder that I do not possess the deep technical understanding of the art of film making as does Marquee Movies, nor did I have access to a cheap theater (two tickets, two pops/popcorn $24).
    Now then: I agree with jhag … way too damn cute. I agree The Unexpected Party could not be filmed as written, but the ridiculous tossing of the plates, et. al made me cringe. I not only did not like, I DESPISED the entire treatment of Radagast, who should never have made an appearance (this was Jackson sopping to “where was Bombadil+needing filler).
    Fred loves JRRT’s dwarves; I love the elves, especially the Eldar. Erebor looked incredible, but what we did see of Smaug WAS NOT a red-gold dragon and Thranduil looked inspidily cartoonish.
    Nothing carried any weight or seriousness to it, despite Cate Blanchett’s best effort. Elrond (too dour in LOTR) now comes across as buddy-buddy.
    The worst part of it for me is that the dwarves of Thorin and Co. DO NOT LOOK LIKE DWARVES! Thorin may as well have been a ranger.
    I appreciate the effort, but this was not even close to the quality of entertainment of the trilogy (which Jackson nearly ruined by his 100% reversal of Aragorn’s motivations and personality, to say nothing of his raping of the scene at the Cracks of Doom).
    Still, I will dutifully plunk down the cash for the DVD’s (sigh) but oh what could have been …

  11. Buurenaar says:

    I saw it with my dad on Christmas Eve. The joy of a Southern town is that, even on holidays, the theater is cheap because there is little to nothing else to do. We were both loving it from the first minute.
    I guess I am probably a bit too lenient for most Tolkien scholars’ tastes, but I thought it was a good job for what he had to do. If there’s one thing I remember about The Hobbit, it’s that it was written in–for Tolkien–a very sparse style. It was originally a bedtime story, and it shows.
    Peter Jackson does a very good job with what he tackles, considering the fan base is more rabid about accuracy than even my fellow Star Wars nerds. Mind you, we’re rabid enough to debate what can be allowed for custom characters for months. Mess up something in Star Wars, and the reaction is fierce for a few months at maximum. Mess up Tolkien’s work, and you’ll be pulling academics with torches and pitchforks off your doorstep for decades.
    I can just say this: Rankin & Bass did a much, much worse job. I didn’t poke back through source materials for the showing (mostly because I didn’t have time due to Life being the canid equivalent of a sow) and found it pretty true to the body of Tolkien’s work that I have read. It made my day to see they actually included a version of “Blunt the Knives.”

  12. fsdthreshold says:

    I must say, it’s very enjoyable reading these opinions pro & con — long live the blog!

    I’m not the elf expert, but I was personally thrilled to see Thranduil! I thought, “Yes! That’s an elf-king of the Greenwood!”

    I really liked the appearance of Balin (my favorite of the thirteen Dwarves).

    Mr. Brown, I agree that the Dwarves, for the most part, didn’t look like Dwarves. As I recall, Tolkien tells us that Dwarves get grey beards pretty quickly and then look like old men for most of their long lives (or did we make up that detail? — anyway, that’s firmly fixed in my mind). I’m pretty sure the reason the filmmakers didn’t do that was so that audiences could distinguish among them a little more easily. At least they did get Kili and Fili looking young.

    As for the tossing of plates during the Unexpected Party — here’s why I like it: it helps to show that the Dwarves are not mundane Men; there’s something magical about them. It is not the magic of the Elves, but they are a folk from faraway places, a mysterious folk tangled up with Adventures, whom respectable hobbits should never trust. I always had the image from the book, etc., that the Dwarves were precariously throwing the dishes around, coming very close to breaking them but never quite doing so, and miraculously getting everything cleaned up.

    I did notice the “Hollywooding” of Bilbo, the way in Hollywood, protagonists always have to be strong and self-motivated. In the book, Bilbo is more or less bullied into the adventure by Gandalf — “You shall have to run!” In the movie, he decides for himself to go. Same with that business of leaping out of the burning tree to save Thorin. Same with turning the trolls to stone — Gandalf was present in the film to split the rock, but it was much more about Bilbo and less about Gandalf in the movie.

    • jhagman says:

      I was glad when the Snowflake responded.Till then, I didn’t feel picked on, but I fealt out-numbered. I kept saying to myself: When is the Snowflake going to bring up the heavy artillery? I knew he was packing!

      • I am unlimbering the caissons as you read this, jhag! (see below). It is infuriating to see how close Jackson comes to getting it right. While I love what he has done, it is tempered with sadness at how much better (given the talent on display) it could have been! Imagine if Aragorn were actually the Aragorn of the books! If Faramir were really Faramir … if Legolas was not a video-game warrior … if Arwen had been placed in her proper role … if, if, if …

  13. Keeping track of all those boorish dwarves would be cumbersome, so I understand the idea of stark individuality to set them apart. I am quite surprised that you liked the look of Balin (also my favorite from the book) … I thought he should seem more a “battle dwarf” and less “happy uncle.”
    There is, to me, FAR FAR too much “making the hero” in all four of the films so far. You noted the Bilbo scenes: well, how about this: The ENTIRE POINT of the scene at the Cracks of Doom is that FRODO FAILS. He utterly, totally fails and narrowly avoids damning all of Middle Earth. Why? Because he is mortal, and thus, weak. It took ‘providence’ if you will — Gollum stepping too far and falling — to cash in on Frodo’s heroism in reaching the final point. His heroics were necessary to set the stage, but he failed in the end because mankind fails without Christ, a theme the author, a devoted catholic, uses thoughout LOTR and especially The Silmarillion. Jackson spits on this with his twisted treatments.

  14. fsdthreshold says:

    “Happy uncle”? Well, this is all subjective. I thought Balin in the movie looked like an elderly Dwarf accustomed to battle.

    Yes — I agree with you 100% about the failing of Frodo at the Cracks of Doom. But I don’t agree that Jackson “spits on” Frodo’s failing or that his treatment is all that twisted. Frodo wrestles with Gollum in the films, but it’s left ambiguous as to how exactly Gollum falls. The wrestling is there solely for suspense, I think — so that audiences can be on the edge of their seats as to whether Sam will save Frodo, or whether Frodo, too, will fall into the fires. Jackson drops the ominous line from Galadriel to the effect of, “The Ring-Bearer begins to realize that the quest will claim his life.” So audiences are half-prepared for Frodo to die. I would argue that that’s the reason Frodo and Gollum tussle — so that Frodo is hanging from the cliff. We can still understand that Gollum dances himself into the Cracks; he’s clearly happy as he falls, since he’s at last reunited with the Precious.

    Yes, Frodo fails to willingly destroy the ring. The movies, faithful to Tolkien, make that abundantly clear.

  15. I agree they make his failing clear and his attack on Gollum is not to grab the Ring to destroy it; rather, it is to reclaim it. BUT (and this is a big BUT), Frodo need not have been seen fighting with Gollum after the Ring was taken at all. Either Fran or Phillippa (I forget which) says in the commentary that they “needed that dramatic moment” of having the fight and of Frodo hanging on.
    NO YOU DID NOT!
    The drama was already high enough without the silly (and it was silly) image of Frodo (nearly dead moments ago) somehow hanging on (with maimed hand) by his fingertips, something the best-trained athletes in the world can barely do.
    Now as for Thranduil and the wood-elves … I hope Jackson does not fall into the temptation of making them “faerie” elves, riding stags, with satyrs, etc. Yes, they are rustic compared to the Eldar, but they are not “faeries.” I fear the worst is yet to come …

  16. Buurenaar says:

    I think we can all agree that Jackson did a little bit of corny theatrics here and there, but he also had a horrendously hard job of adapting LOTR so that both newcomers and Tolkien diehards would enjoy it. Also, I would like to open up the can of worms in advance and show a little evidence that it doesn’t “seem” to be headed into the direction of the fey too hard.

    I present to you….TAURIEL, captain of the Mirkwood Guard. This pic is directly from her figure’s box: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Nw1WGf2dQn8/UNz8xaVnGOI/AAAAAAAAZAg/ajIcXVUDg2k/s1600/EVANGELINE-LILLY_TAURIEL_HOBBIT.jpeg

    • Buurenaar says:

      Also, for BBC fans…
      Bilbo is Watson.
      Radagast is the Seventh Doctor.
      The voice of Smaug is Sherlock.

      That is all.

  17. jhagman says:

    I don’t like any of it! Denny’s Hobbit Meals? This WETA does not preserve the dignity of the LOTR. This media culture has taken writers like Sean Stewart and made their work laughable,it is pathetic! I know I sound like a print Luddite, but when Kem Nunn writes endless scripts for garbage TV, and a great writer like our host has to pick through garbage,I grind my teeth,,, and think Denethor thoughts.

    • Tru dat,jhag! I thank Buurenaar for the quick look at Tauriel, who, thankfully, does not look too ‘fey.’ I know the need for female roles is important to the studios, but there are few female roles in the books, so …
      Whoever was going to take on the task of bringing Tolkien to the big screen was in nice pickle, as Samwise would say. The Traditionalists (like myself) will probably never be happy, but I am more than willing to compromise, provided it does not get silly. If Jackson’s original ideas for Arwen had survived the outcry would have likely destroyed most of the allure of LOTR, and it was only fan backlash that stopped him. I see his job as tinkering with the books as little as possible, and to aim at pleasing the reader, not the “never read it” crowd. Why? Because, outside of the Holy Bible, LOTR is the most-read book(s) in history, so the enormous fan base was already there. Exclude Bombadil? I can live with it. Completely alter the personalilty and mental strength of Aragorn? That alone nearly ruined it all for me. I am appreciative, but cannot ignore the “what if” cloud that forever hovers around all four films so far.

  18. fsdthreshold says:

    Jhagman, I’m touched by this . . . thank you!

    Here’s the way I see it. Books are books; movies are movies. I’m thankful that . . . well, most of us on this blog . . . were born in the age when we had Tolkien’s books in all their glory, and then year after year of calendars by different artists. [By the way, I have the Alan Lee/John Howe Hobbit calendar on my wall this year — and I gave it as a Christmas present to three close friends here. I’ve had Tolkien calendars on my walls in the U.S. and Japan every year since 1977, I believe. When I die, I’ll need one for the wall of my casket — just saying, so some one of you can take care of that! I’ve been really enjoying the Cor Blok Tolkien calendars the last two years.]

    Buurenaar, that Rankin/Bass Hobbit animation came along when I was in fifth grade, just as I was reading The Hobbit for the first time! I read half the book, then saw that animation on TV, then finished the book. I agree with you about its terrible shortcomings, but then, to us, it seemed magical and wonderful that someone had made a movie of The Hobbit! I had a very abridged two-record (audio) set of that Rankin/Bass production, a four-record set (which I think was unabridged), and a recording of some British voice narrator/actor reading the entire book. I memorized those Rankin/Bass records, and at my dad’s bookstore, I did a puppet theatre production of The Hobbit. Mr. Brown, did you happen to see that? To do the Dwarves, I used a rig made from part of a TV antenna — I had about five or six Dwarves (instead of 13) all stuck on vertical poles on a piece I could hold with one hand — so they didn’t move independently — they just stood there with their arms out. I’m sure it was pretty bad. But it was impassioned!

    We had the Rankin/Bass ROTK and the Ralph Bakshi movie of LOTR that ended with Helm’s Deep, and Gandalf in triumph bizarrely throwing his sword straight up into the air . . . (“And so, the forces of darkness were driven forever from the face of Middle-earth by the valiant friends of Frodo . . .”) The soundtrack, which I listened to on cassette tape until it must have worn thin, sounded like it was performed by a high-school band. But it was what we had then, and it was LOTR, so we embraced and loved it.

    Then, when the fulness of time had come, along came Peter Jackson. I was giddy with joy that our well-loved story was being brought to the screen now, in an age when the technology had finally advanced sufficiently and enabled it to be done so well.

    You can find fault, or you can enjoy the efforts of Peter Jackson and crew. I know the movies aren’t perfect, and I know they’re not the books. But, as I always say, the books are alive and well, and no one can take away a jot or a tittle from them. By all means, go and enjoy the books — that’s the true Middle-earth!

    But again I’ll say: Peter Jackson’s crew did a better job than I would have done. I am grateful for what he’s done, and I bless and thank him, and Fran, and Philippa, and all their team.

    Yes, it’s a silly age we live in. “The times are ill,” as someone inevitably utters in any sprawling epic fantasy. But thank God for the storytellers, who work with the media of their times!

    Today, New Year’s Day, I made sure to carve out some time to work a little on my novel, The House of the Worm. That was crucially important to me to do that on the first day of the year, to set the tone for the year ahead. I’m sorting through garbage now, but I’m also writing.

  19. I, too, love the Tolkien calendars, but never cared for the Darrell K. Sweet work as much.
    Sorry, Fred, but I don’t remember a Hobbit puppet show (although I did see many FSD productions!).
    Yes, we delighted in whatever could be produced, but I seem to recall most of us (certainly myself) hated ROTK with a passion that they years have not abated.
    Yes, yes, the books are the books, the movies the movies, we should thank PJ, yada yada yada. I agree. But tell me, old friend, do you not think it could have been better. That, seeing all they can do, that a better job could have been done? That is all I am saying …

    • fsdthreshold says:

      Yes, dear friend, I’ll agree with you on that: a better job could have been done. For me, the job done is good enough that I’m able to enjoy all four of the movies so far. But yes — if only we could keep all the good that has been done, and also have the changes we’d like to make! Yes, your point is well taken.

      This is getting a bit philosophical, but “a better job could have been done” is pretty much true all the time, of every human endeavor, isn’t it? Writers never complete their books to perfection: they just get them as good as they can, and then abandon them to fend for themselves in the world.

      I completely agree; I was never a fan of the artwork of Darrell K. Sweet. Did you know that he passed away within the last year or two? I saw/heard him at the World Fantasy Convention in Columbus a few years ago, and not long after that, the SFWA announced that he’d died.

      My introduction to artists’ renditions of Tolkien’s world began with the Brothers Hildebrandt. I’ll never forget discovering one of their Tolkien calendars in White Oaks Mall–I must have been about 13. Certainly there are aspects of their work that I don’t agree with at all (the big pale balrog, the crocodilian orcs, the pointy-eared hobbits, Aragorn, Elrond, etc., etc.) — but it was magical to discover that calendar! Here was Middle-earth, rendered visually! I’ve collected the Tolkien calendar every year since, no matter who has drawn it.

      Yes . . . the animated ROTK . . . sigh. “Fro-dooo of the nine fingers . . . and the ring of dooooooom! Why does he have nine fingers? Where is the ring of doooooom?” And again, the song of the orcs: “Where there’s a whip [whkk-tasshh!], there’s a way!”

  20. Happy 121st birthday (Jan. 3) J.R.R. Tolkien!

    Blogger alert: Our dear host will be celebrating his birthday Jan. 12! Happy early birthday wishes my dear old friend! It has been my pleasure to call you ‘friend’ for over 40 years!

  21. Hagiograph says:

    I saw the non-48fps/non-3D version and I must say I agree with Brown that this was a “lesser” film than any of the LotR films. I am glad to know that Jackson et al built off the appendices and added in the additional “meat” to what is essentially a children’s story.

    Now, far be it from me to denigrate a rendering of the Hobbit (horrible confession time: I originally got hooked on the Hobbit and a life of reading back in the 70’s with the Rankin Bass Hobbit and the fact Fred was reading it at the same time so I grabbed the book and loved it and took to a life of reading, which I will always be happy about…but….)

    The problems with the Hobbit (Part I) were:

    1. JRRT had a penchant for larding up the front parts of the books with a treacly sweetness and fondness of home and hearth. Mind you I understand this love of the cozy hobbit hole, but trudging through that part of the book and the movie was like watching someone else’s pornography while they sit there and show it to you. It’s nice but best shared with no one, and you can enjoy it by yourself!

    2. The Dwarves appeared to be really well done CGI cartoons. Thorin at least looked normal. Everyone else had ridiculous noses and beards. Kind of like the stoning scene in “Life of Brian”.

    3. The grandeur was phenomenal, but Rivendell gets kinda old after seeing grandeur upon grandeur. Again to go back to the porn analogy, it is kind of “grand porn”, grandeur with no real reason for grandeur except that Jackson could splew it out on the screen

    4. Spaces were too huge. I know it added a lot, but how many goblins could be down in the mountain…looked like easily 1500 goblins/square foot down there. Again the cgi folks ran amok and let loose with the overcrowding.

    5. Radagast the Brown should be renamed Radagast the Clown. The everpresent bird-feces on his face was distressing to watch and the “goofiness” was painful. I liked the fact that the Necromancer stuff was fleshed out more in the film, but gimme a break…did we REALLY need the Hedgehog 9-11 ressuccitation scene? My life isn’t better for it. More sweetness to claw away. (did like the creepy children of ungoliant, tho!)

    Overall I’m losing steam. I’m afraid Jackson is teetering on the brink of George Lucasism and is dragging this into an overwrought thing with less real “meat” and just more and more bones.

    I know Jackson is working off the Canon and is making good films, but maybe I’m at the point when the magic just isn’t there. LotR was, probably for me and many of us on here, the “Citizen Kane” of our time. The greatest films made because they met all our needs and did it very well with little left wanting.

    Now we seem to be seated at the table gorging on stuff we neither need nor (in my case) necessarily want.

    I wish Jackson could do something like the Silmarillion but I understand that is unlikely.

  22. jhagman says:

    Hagio “Citizen Kane”!?!, uggh! Either you are having a tremendous laugh at our expense, or you are terminally jet lagged from your endless travels. A long period of rest is recommended , along with a diet of oatmeal,and herb tea. No labs or sharp objects for at least two weeks!

    • Hagiograph says:

      I am not being facetious on _that_ point. In that

      1. I only found Citizen Kane to be a “good” movie (I never understood why people felt it was one of the greats), but I realize so many people feel it is a high point in movie making art

      2. The LotR movies will surely be remembered by our generation as the culmination of the dreams we had when we first read the books. That the moviemaker had perfected all that was needed to provide the real vision to that which we all imagined.

      I find that Jackson’s imagery in the LotR movies mapped quite well with what I could imagine things being like (of course I was always a big fan of the Brothers Hildebrandt calendars and this seemed almost as “rich” as those).

      • jhagman says:

        That is all part of your delusion from living in 7 time-zones in 6 days: imagining what you might have imagined! A scientist in this frame of health is dangerous I tell you! No nuclear materials for at least a month!

  23. Morwenna says:

    Fred, I’ve truly enjoyed re-reading “Ren and the Shadow Imps” in Cricket. Terrific story!

    Snowflake, I hope you had a lovely Feast of the Epiphany.

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